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	<title>Comments on: My Problem With CCHIT</title>
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	<description>This is the Blog of Will Weider, CIO of Ministry Health Care and Affinity Health System. This is the place where I share what I have learned through my mistakes and other crazy things in the life of a healthcare CIO.</description>
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		<title>By: tworzenie stron www</title>
		<link>http://candidcio.com/2009/04/07/my-problem-with-cchit/#comment-9731</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 13:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with your assessment that their certification process is difficult. 

There is a need for standardization and CCHIT is just the beginning. Hopefully, we will see a stronger and better organization surface and take the challenge of defining certification as it’s meant to be defined.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your assessment that their certification process is difficult. </p>
<p>There is a need for standardization and CCHIT is just the beginning. Hopefully, we will see a stronger and better organization surface and take the challenge of defining certification as it’s meant to be defined.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Cook</title>
		<link>http://candidcio.com/2009/04/07/my-problem-with-cchit/#comment-9708</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Cook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 01:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hmmmmm, Jamie.   I&#039;m just wondering how you have become &#039;certified&#039; as a consultant.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmmm, Jamie.   I&#8217;m just wondering how you have become &#8216;certified&#8217; as a consultant.</p>
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		<title>By: ahier</title>
		<link>http://candidcio.com/2009/04/07/my-problem-with-cchit/#comment-9643</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 03:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a fascinating discussion...
Great blog!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a fascinating discussion&#8230;<br />
Great blog!</p>
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		<title>By: hospitalcio</title>
		<link>http://candidcio.com/2009/04/07/my-problem-with-cchit/#comment-9636</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hospitalcio]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 01:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ministry&#039;s decision to use the Marshfield Clinic EHR was not to save money.  It was to do what EHRs should do, make sure that the doctors and other caregivers have access to the complete information at their fingertips so they can spend the most amount of time with the patient making the best medical decisions.  Our patients are best served by sharing an electronic medical record between Ministry&#039;s 200 physicians and 15 hospitals and Marshfield Clinic&#039;s 750 clinicians.  Most of our patients see providers at both organizations.

Had we been clairvoyant and predicted EHR incentives, we still would make the same decision.  It is about the patients, not the vendors or the money.

By the way, the Marshfield Clinic&#039;s EHR is CCHIT certified, so you missed the boat on my motives for this post.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ministry&#8217;s decision to use the Marshfield Clinic EHR was not to save money.  It was to do what EHRs should do, make sure that the doctors and other caregivers have access to the complete information at their fingertips so they can spend the most amount of time with the patient making the best medical decisions.  Our patients are best served by sharing an electronic medical record between Ministry&#8217;s 200 physicians and 15 hospitals and Marshfield Clinic&#8217;s 750 clinicians.  Most of our patients see providers at both organizations.</p>
<p>Had we been clairvoyant and predicted EHR incentives, we still would make the same decision.  It is about the patients, not the vendors or the money.</p>
<p>By the way, the Marshfield Clinic&#8217;s EHR is CCHIT certified, so you missed the boat on my motives for this post.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://candidcio.com/2009/04/07/my-problem-with-cchit/#comment-9635</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 01:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You neglected to mention the core problem with CCHIT and it is the cozy relationship with HIMSS that I hope the new federal policy and standards committees tear apart.  If we want a certification process that works, it must be independent but we need a certification process nonetheless.  If you are worried about Ministry not qualifying for &quot;meaningful use&quot; for incentive EHR  money, you could have guaranteed yourself qualification by going with a commercially well-known package/vendor with mainstream technology such as EPIC, GE Health, etc. instead of hoping for the best with an unproven legacy EHR which you negotiated on the cheap.  Your CCHIT comments could be construed as being directed at your EHR vendor Marshfield Clinic and we all know that Ministry is way too far down the road with that to change at this point don&#039;t we?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You neglected to mention the core problem with CCHIT and it is the cozy relationship with HIMSS that I hope the new federal policy and standards committees tear apart.  If we want a certification process that works, it must be independent but we need a certification process nonetheless.  If you are worried about Ministry not qualifying for &#8220;meaningful use&#8221; for incentive EHR  money, you could have guaranteed yourself qualification by going with a commercially well-known package/vendor with mainstream technology such as EPIC, GE Health, etc. instead of hoping for the best with an unproven legacy EHR which you negotiated on the cheap.  Your CCHIT comments could be construed as being directed at your EHR vendor Marshfield Clinic and we all know that Ministry is way too far down the road with that to change at this point don&#8217;t we?</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
		<link>http://candidcio.com/2009/04/07/my-problem-with-cchit/#comment-9625</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jamie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 16:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PS -- as for certification . . . 

I&#039;ve been working in this field for over a decade.  I do not carry any vendor specific certifications because I&#039;m an EHR agnostic -- I don&#039;t mind whatever EHR my clients use, I&#039;m there to help them to use it properly.  

A lot of the people I know who carry certification did so for a bump in pay and easy jump between companies.  I&#039;ve met an awful lot of people with certification who don&#039;t know the realities of the field they face.  

Certification is NOT replacement for experience -- and this is true of consultants and the EHR&#039;s.  Unfortunately, most employers DO believe that certification is &#039;better&#039; than experience.  A pity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS &#8212; as for certification . . . </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been working in this field for over a decade.  I do not carry any vendor specific certifications because I&#8217;m an EHR agnostic &#8212; I don&#8217;t mind whatever EHR my clients use, I&#8217;m there to help them to use it properly.  </p>
<p>A lot of the people I know who carry certification did so for a bump in pay and easy jump between companies.  I&#8217;ve met an awful lot of people with certification who don&#8217;t know the realities of the field they face.  </p>
<p>Certification is NOT replacement for experience &#8212; and this is true of consultants and the EHR&#8217;s.  Unfortunately, most employers DO believe that certification is &#8216;better&#8217; than experience.  A pity.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jamie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 16:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great commentary on CCHIT.

I think that having an external body who evaluates this technology is very important for hospitals, offices, etc. who are looking to implement EHR technology -- we all know that there are too many &#039;consultants&#039; who are really salesmen.  It&#039;s important that we have a place to turn that will give us the true &#039;skinny&#039; on these systems.

But, my issues with CCHIT are essentially the same as yours, especially when they are being used by the federal government.

I&#039;ve seen a system in the wild that would never be CCHIT certified.  It is a home-grown &#039;data warehouse - like&#039; system that is accessed by physicians through the web, and contains ALL information from ancillary systems.  The database of information is built using the HL7 messages that bounce through all the systems, and enables this central point to also give ADT, results, etc. to the ancillaries.  Does it work?  Boy, howdy, does it - and better than some of the multi-million dollar systems I&#039;ve seen in place.  Would CCHIT ever certify it?  Well, no.  If the feds used CCHIT to evaluate whether or not folks are compliant with any kind of federally mandated EHR, would they be able to keep it?  I guess that&#039;s the big question in my mind.

Look, it&#039;s great if a solution has a stamp by CCHIT.  But the fact of the matter is, they are skewed towards the larger, more hefty systems that some health systems simply can not afford.  And the greater fact of the matter is, look, it&#039;s great if you implement Epic, Cerner, whatever -- but the system is useless if it&#039;s not configured, maintained, and used properly -- who are they going to get to govern THAT?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great commentary on CCHIT.</p>
<p>I think that having an external body who evaluates this technology is very important for hospitals, offices, etc. who are looking to implement EHR technology &#8212; we all know that there are too many &#8216;consultants&#8217; who are really salesmen.  It&#8217;s important that we have a place to turn that will give us the true &#8216;skinny&#8217; on these systems.</p>
<p>But, my issues with CCHIT are essentially the same as yours, especially when they are being used by the federal government.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen a system in the wild that would never be CCHIT certified.  It is a home-grown &#8216;data warehouse &#8211; like&#8217; system that is accessed by physicians through the web, and contains ALL information from ancillary systems.  The database of information is built using the HL7 messages that bounce through all the systems, and enables this central point to also give ADT, results, etc. to the ancillaries.  Does it work?  Boy, howdy, does it &#8211; and better than some of the multi-million dollar systems I&#8217;ve seen in place.  Would CCHIT ever certify it?  Well, no.  If the feds used CCHIT to evaluate whether or not folks are compliant with any kind of federally mandated EHR, would they be able to keep it?  I guess that&#8217;s the big question in my mind.</p>
<p>Look, it&#8217;s great if a solution has a stamp by CCHIT.  But the fact of the matter is, they are skewed towards the larger, more hefty systems that some health systems simply can not afford.  And the greater fact of the matter is, look, it&#8217;s great if you implement Epic, Cerner, whatever &#8212; but the system is useless if it&#8217;s not configured, maintained, and used properly &#8212; who are they going to get to govern THAT?</p>
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		<title>By: livingdeadgrrl</title>
		<link>http://candidcio.com/2009/04/07/my-problem-with-cchit/#comment-9621</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with your assessment that their certification process is difficult. 

I have been working in Healthcare IT for about 12 years now.  The one thing that I have to say, about the many environments I have worked in, that even if someone DOES have one of the big vendors (Cerner, Epic) on their side -- it doesn&#039;t matter.  It&#039;s not JUST the EHR software that matters -- there are dozens to hundreds (depending on size) of clinical systems that would need to be interfaced into an EHR -- these are the types of systems that run, say, a linear accelerator, and simply will never be replaced by an EHR -- yet holds clinical information vital to the patient record.  I believe these systems to be far superior than just an EHR that would easily get the certification. 

I&#039;ve seen EHR projects that have succeeded, and I&#039;ve seen ones that have failed.  In my experience, the variable upon which success rests is not the vendor, but the implementation team.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your assessment that their certification process is difficult. </p>
<p>I have been working in Healthcare IT for about 12 years now.  The one thing that I have to say, about the many environments I have worked in, that even if someone DOES have one of the big vendors (Cerner, Epic) on their side &#8212; it doesn&#8217;t matter.  It&#8217;s not JUST the EHR software that matters &#8212; there are dozens to hundreds (depending on size) of clinical systems that would need to be interfaced into an EHR &#8212; these are the types of systems that run, say, a linear accelerator, and simply will never be replaced by an EHR &#8212; yet holds clinical information vital to the patient record.  I believe these systems to be far superior than just an EHR that would easily get the certification. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen EHR projects that have succeeded, and I&#8217;ve seen ones that have failed.  In my experience, the variable upon which success rests is not the vendor, but the implementation team.</p>
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		<title>By: mdjosephkim</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 02:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is a need for standardization and CCHIT is just the beginning. Hopefully, we will see a stronger and better organization surface and take the challenge of defining certification as it&#039;s meant to be defined.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a need for standardization and CCHIT is just the beginning. Hopefully, we will see a stronger and better organization surface and take the challenge of defining certification as it&#8217;s meant to be defined.</p>
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		<title>By: Hospital CIO&#8217;s Take on CCHIT &#124; EMR (EHR) and HIPAA</title>
		<link>http://candidcio.com/2009/04/07/my-problem-with-cchit/#comment-9585</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hospital CIO&#8217;s Take on CCHIT &#124; EMR (EHR) and HIPAA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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